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Canberra

Thank you very much Jerry T. Your timing was excellent. Leightons just refurbished a B50H seat for me and they made a foam using yours as a guide. Apparently your seat had a one piece foam as designed specifically for the B50H. I have only seen foams which were cut down longer B50SS versions to suit...

Canberra

Happy Birthday and don't let those germs get by. Have one (or two) glasses of scrumpy from Lynn and I.

Regards again from bottom of the world (or the top whichever way is up).

Canberra

No 2 - same. Must be starting technique or state of ignition coil.

Canberra

Why not have a word with your local exhaust shop? I got one in Canberra to hand build mine which is a lot more complicated that what you are looking for and it is 1 3/4 OD. It needed a few extra bends to bring it under the frame and out of the way of the kick start which is still a standard part. I ...

Canberra

Hopefully we can all escape lock-down and get some warmth. I ended up respraying the bike and doing some work on other parts. I used a Ford paint which I thought I could get everywhere years ago. Tango was nice but only ever used on 69 x V8 race bred XB falcons so have to get it specifically mixed a...

Canberra

Could it be the original hepolite piston had a long skirt. Maybe they needed the liner to be at a sufficient length but the con rod and bottom of the liner proved a conflict. That created the need for the cut outs on the lower sleeve. With modern short skirt pistons maybe the liner could be shorter ...

Canberra

Hi Skippy, I see a little birthday cake against your recent posts. Hope all is well and you get a chance to get out for a drink (alcoholic or not) to celebrate.

Happy returns, Regards, John

Canberra

There are a range of electronic ignitions on the market nowadays and we all have preferences and comments on them. Boyer had to upgrade their units as the earlier ones was severely affected by even a small battery drop. Pazon which I am using recommend replacing most original ignition components alt...

Canberra

How is the battery? I've had the misfortune of running a Boyer with the battery on it's way out. I had huge problems starting until I replaced the battery. I use a different electronic system now which is less prone to voltage drop.

John

Canberra

On the B50 there are two designs for the valve mechanism. The later is spring loaded to release the valve lifter. I changed mine many years ago so am unsure of the parts involved. I agree with Momus. Welding may bring up more issues with heat treatment than you're trying to cure. I believe Stan did ...

Canberra

I find it'll come down to what you want yourself. Original type patterns, albeit with better compound material, or go for a more modern sportier tyre. I have fitted Metzlers on mine at moment and they seem OK although I do normally prefer Avons. It came down to price as I find the B50 is rather hung...

Canberra

Jerry,

Does the large tank have a brace underneath going from one half of the saddle to the other? If so, it would be later version which would be worth selling. These larger tanks (with or without the brace) are as rare as the short seats that went with them.

John

Canberra

Being a short arse no wonder the seat on my B50SS feels as high if not higher than the B50T I have

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This is a warning to anyone considering making a fibreglass version of the seat base

John

Canberra

Jerry,

Same dimension as mine 305 mm, so no issue with the mount. Mine also is forward in relation to the tank.

Let me know what you decide on use of tank/seat and will pm JB.

Canberra

Hi John and Jerry, My pan is so damaged if Jerry goes down the 2 gallon tank route I would be interested in your pan John. I would just need new good foam and cover to suit, which Leightons can make to suit . Attached shows the bodge from BSA for reducing the foam length. I would be interested if an...

Canberra

Couple of pics to see what BSA did to make the short seat in 71. BSA cut the foam in the centre and lost an inch off the overall length. Certain bodge as the front of the foam is same as the long seat resulting in foam being too narrow at its nose. This stresses the outer cover in use and results in...

Canberra

If you have a TLS brake hub in a 20 inch WM1 rim then a previous owner did that. To my knowledge no B50SS came out from the factory with TLS and 20 inch WM1 front rims. Only the B50T and B50MX used those 20 inch WM1 rims with SLS brake hubs. I know of a few B50T riders who changed the hubs for bette...

Canberra

Jerry, the dual seat/large tank version of the seat is not available. Over a number of years I have given up trying to source. The concept of the works using the longer dual seat/small tank version and cutting the pan off at the front of the pan and taking a strip out of the foam is a bodge but obvi...

Canberra

Hi Jerry, I have the same problem with my seat foam and the base had to be reworked with tinplate. Lot worse condition than yours, your base almost looks pristine! When you touch the hardened sections on the foam it falls apart. I was going to get some foam rubber and slice a section off the top of ...

Canberra

I found after a while the pipe through the primary case comes lose and leaks. I ended up manufacturing one with out of a hydraulic fitting and use a nut on the inside. Only issue is the fitting is vertical and lets oil blow into the breather. I have restricted it and it tees into the 1/2 inch breath...

Canberra

On the BSA frame drawing the datum is through the center of the swinging arm pivot and is parallel to the lower top tube. In no way I would consider that is parallel to the ground. I assume all B50 frames are same. In that case that datum would never relate to the ground as the MX has 21 inch front ...

Canberra

The length of the tube relates to the tank rubbers under the tank and the o-ring. I had to customise mine as I use two thicker rubbers and I also use a wedge shaped washer to straighten up the screw when it is in the frame. The original B50H design included that.

John

Canberra

Hi Webby,

Just checking -2 or 4 valve engine?

John

Canberra

Hi mlb50. There were DVDs created on the P92 and supplied by a site member (see here ) . Not sure if there are any more around. They are interesting as they show quite a few welcome upgrades to the original engine. Sadly they never made it to production. Search on the P92 topic (see here ) . John Ed...

Canberra

Without digging out my drawing what are the reference S holes? They are the ones for the head steady. If they are helicoiling the outer holes why not those? They take more stress than the outer holes.

John

Canberra

Engineering practice in Aluminium is coarse thread. My experience is in huge aluminium covers which are automatically fitted with helicoils for added strength and better wear on disassembly/reassembly with steel on steel thread contact instead of steel screw and bare aluminium. I do realise that wha...

Canberra

As far as I am aware B50 had UNC in the head and UNF on the nuts. I have a CCM head with socket cap screws which recess into the rocker box. You just need to be aware different bolt manufacturers use different head dimensions if you have to replace any. I had a thread give way and used helicoils. I ...

Canberra

Looks like a repeat of a previous year's result with South Africa

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Better luck next time.

Canberra

Poop. No more Wales. Looks like I'll have to support England

John

Canberra

Totally agree. Do not rely on the standard BSA wiring where they used the frame as the earth. I run extra earths back to a common point. The indicators are very prone to poor earths, especially from the front lights.

John

Canberra

A good question, I'll buy it?

It was a great match, worthy of a final. Maybe one advantage was the coach and his background on Kiwi. This time I'm following my forefathers and looking for a welsh win next.

John

Canberra

With all the ups and downs from both sides, the fifth test will be interesting. I certainly wouldn't bet on the outcome

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The ladies game is a better bet

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With the rugby in Japan we'll both be aiming to make a dent against the cousins across the ditch.

Canberra

Is there a source for seat pans? I am looking for one to fit a B50SS with 3 gallon tank.

My existing seat foam is a bit tatty and have a new cover but the metal pan is corroded around the edges.

Alternately anyone with a good seat complete for sale?

John

Canberra

Thanks Midgie, I was trying to cheat using this rough measurement method as shown before striping the wheel back out the frame. As each rim varies in width so the 1 7/8 is also not perfect measurement, I checked with a straight bar across either side of the tyre to the rear subframe so that I was ch...

Canberra

I was trying not to say something

It'll make the next game interesting.

John

Canberra

Hi Trevor, Somehow I doubt if it'll actually be retirement. Maybe a change of jobs - some paid, some not so paid.. Alternately, maybe I'll just become an old fart. So far it looks like I'll be renewing my machine maintenance skills for getting older items working to go to developing countries. It wo...

Canberra

I'm assuming the seal is in the right way round? Sprung lip to the inside.

If there is a burr on the split bush it can cut the seal.

Some replacement seals are rubber on outside and can move due to pressure of the felt washer if it is too thick. That is why I went with a metal case seal.

John

Canberra

Thanks, Lynn is thinking of keeping working for awhile longer, so I expect her to keep me in the way I deserve. Maybe a year or two before we get to do a world trip again. It would be good to both have time to meander, meanwhile I have a few other plans lined up.

John

Canberra

I have taken the rear of my B50SS apart to check the alignment of the center of the rim versus the center of the frame and have found I need to readjust the rear rim on the wheel. I have a WM3 on the SS so the only setup that can be comparable is on the B50T. The MX does not have a speedo drive so I...

Canberra

Another day and this may be off topic and have to be moved by the Moderator into Tales of Woe section.

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