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Re: Star

Post by Barry Creary » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:57 pm

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Post by Ian Hingley » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:45 pm

Hope you're passing down some of your skills and passion to him!

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Re: Star

Post by koncretekid » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:09 pm

Beat,
I like your single sided swingarm. What is the wheel and what is the axle size that it can handle the side load?
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:17 pm

Ian Hingley wrote:
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Hope you're passing down some of your skills and passion to him!
yes, - we are on it !
first is the welding the stainless steel.
the sidecar is compleately done by himself now. -- means: if it breaks and I loose him on the racetrack - its he's problem.... :lol:

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What is the wheel and what is the axle size that it can handle the side load?
the wheel is a second hand one from a WASP, British made.
the bearings size is 7/8 X 2 X 9/16.
so, 22.22 mm diameter for the axle in the wheel, 30 mm the axle in the swing arm.
Material: SS Steel. Axle in the wheel: full material, - Axle inside the arm : bored to 20 mm.
very important: a big radius R 6 mm from the 22 diameter to the 30 diameter with a corresponding washer to fit.
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BTW,
the bike gets on its wheel....
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first time fitting it on wheels
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find a third wheel......
can anyone use a jig to made a:
- wood splitter
- upside down chair
- motoriced wheel chair
- star bar
- many person sidecar
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for free ! just needed to get pick up....
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Re: Star

Post by Jack Gifford » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:24 am

Are 2 wheel drive sidecar rigs raced anywhere?
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Re: Star

Post by skippy » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:22 pm

Jack Gifford wrote:
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Are 2 wheel drive sidecar rigs raced anywhere?
They are still raced in Classic motorcycle racing in Australia.
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:38 pm

Jack Gifford wrote:
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2 wheel drive sidecar rigs
:?: :?: :?:
the rear wheel only is connected to the engine.... <201

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Post by minetymenace » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:37 pm

Ural?!? Raced in former USSR maybe?
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:36 pm

as each bike has he's ratnest:
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primary case....
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primary cover first half
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primary cover second half... in progress...
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under construction.....
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Post by Mark Cook » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:32 pm

I do love your ingenuity Beat, though I do wonder what you would have came up with if you had easy access to my toy shop ;-)
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Post by minetymenace » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:20 pm

You could sell tickets Mark!
"For One Night Only Beat In Beaver Street"
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:17 pm

Mark Cook wrote:
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I do wonder what you would have came up with if you had easy access to my toy shop
I guess I would be much faster in producing things with a shop as yours nearby.
I am very limited to:
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a very simple and little Lathe.
plus
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a very little table top drilling / milling machine.

in additional a TIG Welder and a Angle Grinder.

this is really ALL :!: :!:

but: as the rat nest is nearly cleared ( waiting for some more Material ),
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I cam to the Airfilter and Airbox
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Re: Star

Post by Ian Hingley » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:18 am

minetymenace wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:20 pm
"For One Night Only Beat In Beaver Street"
Or even Beasley Street!

https://youtu.be/37QUUwp9xIs

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Re: Star

Post by beat » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:41 pm

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building a fence for monkey Lo ....
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Fence completed. ....
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dosn't it looks fast , this black stuff .....
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:29 pm

A ( hopefully ) last word to the steering/ fork, - NOT in to the steering head!
the bearings:
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this bearings are placed in to the Jokes ( Yokes )
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important: - they need to be the right way round
the fork is hold in place with this two pins
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pins trough the bearings and in to the steering head.
so the bike today:
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after the last welding work on it
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Sidecar and Fork ready for final fitting
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:38 pm

working on the exhaust this days
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the pipe
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the muffler from the inside
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a hole for the mouse....
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- or the lambda sensor....
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stuffing the muffler / silencer
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muffler and pipe all in one pice nearly finished
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:40 pm

came to the seat
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the saddle, - old and rotten...
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the old foam is falling in to dust...
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cut a new foam
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making a new lightweight base...
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reparing ( sewing ) the leather cover
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there it is: nice and oldfashion style...
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last job now: the electriccery and the transistor ignition

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Post by beat » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:15 pm

getting on to the last bit:

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Post by minetymenace » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:12 pm

What is in the double box? CBE = Commander of the Beesa Empire? >44
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:13 pm

minetymenace wrote:
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What is in the double box? CBE = Commander of the Beesa Empire?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

it is a TIS G5

means aTransistor Ignition Switch Generation 5 (selfbrewed of cause :cool: )

will come up later with the layout if it is running..... <209

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Post by Jack Gifford » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:55 am

C,B,E == Collector, Base, Emitter (transistor leads)

beat- don't you want a resistor (>= 1k ohm) to reduce base current? It looks like you plan to have 12v going through the points and directly to the base of the transistor- which will probably cook the transistor. Or is that space in the box meant for future addition of a resistor?
Why is battery-negative not shown connected to ground?
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Post by minetymenace » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:20 am

Jack, beat has designed many points eliminating circuits, his pdf was just a prelim sketch. Despite granting you guys independence over two hundred years ago, irony is still a bit of a problem for some of you, isn't it? :oops:
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Post by beat » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:58 pm

Hmmmmmm <201
this is what is inside the double lined box:
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but there is some more in it by the G5 version.
G5 will stop feeding current to the coil if the points keeping closed ore keeping open for more then 10 seconds.
means, - after 10 sec of NO SIGNAL from the points, no more current is consumed.
to restart the ignition again, it needs one kick to open ore close the points once.

this is made to prevent consuming battery power whilst bike is laying upside down ore when ever someone forget to disconnect battery, because there is no main switch installed....

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Post by Jack Gifford » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:17 am

Thanks for the details.
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Post by Jack Gifford » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:20 am

minetymenace wrote:
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... Despite granting you guys independence...
Oh?
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Post by Jack Gifford » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:23 am

Serious question for beat- I'm surprised at the lack of any protection of the transistor's E/C junction from the inductive voltage spike as primary coil current is interrupted. I'm guessing your coil will be low-turns-ratio (thus somewhat-low-inductance primary), but what magnitude will the voltage spike be?
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Post by minetymenace » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:39 am

Serious answer Jack, the transistor has to switch off the current to the primary (relatively) quickly. Yes the voltage will shoot up, but the transistor will be rated for this voltage. The only way to "protect" the transistor from transients would be to provide some other current path that results in reduced voltage across the junction, which would reduce the size of the final spark. You are after di/dt to be as big as possible.......... an anti-phase diode might be prudent though.
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Post by beat » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:37 pm

hi Jack
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I'm surprised at the lack of any protection of the transistor's E/C junction from the inductive voltage spike as primary coil current is interrupted.
no protection needed because the type of the Transistor : Mj10012
it cops with 450 Volts and up to 10 Amps on C-E
the inductive voltage spikes at primary windings are around 160 Volts, - so plenty of safety around there.
but the grounding of the E- line is for this reason directly set to the Mass ( Fraim / Engine ) and NOT to the minus of the wiring !!
in my case, NO low turn ratio ( low induction ) Coil is used, - it is a ordinary PVL 12 V coil for single cylinder engines.

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Post by beat » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:56 pm

Hi gents

ROLL OUT TODAY !!
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first thing we did : mesuring the total weight of it
Question : what you chaps imaging the weight in Kilogramms it is in total :?: :?: :?:
- Ready to race, one liter of oil in the frame but NO Petrol in the Tank -
--any toughts ??
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as to see on the front wheel, I have modified the bracket for the brake calliper to make it less anti - dive.
say, I can exactly adjust the amount of dive now for my front brake... :thumb :thumb

and after a problem on the Ignition, made by myself ( moron me :oops: :oops: :oops: )
the ( G ) old Star is running !!!!

and surprisingly, it runs crispy and strong IMO.

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Post by skippy » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:16 pm

beat wrote:
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( moron me
A moron has an IQ of 51 to 70 you are much smarter than that.
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Post by Jack Gifford » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:36 am

Nice work beat!
Any picture of the adjustable-anti-dive scheme?
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Post by SteveS » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:57 am

Great work Beat! :thumb

My guess at the weight is 205kg.

Would love to see a video of the bike in action with passenger!

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Post by beat » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:27 pm

Jack Gifford wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:36 am
Any picture of the adjustable-anti-dive scheme?
yes Jack, pictures of it will fallowing...
SteveS wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:57 am
Would love to see a video of the bike in action with passenger!
:lol: guess there is on the 4. of Mai a first go on something like a race.
it is a single start competition, three laps on a course, Time is taken for each team.

so, for us, there are not many days to make training, - just one ore two.. :???:
( the true is, as I was not sitting on a MX sidecar bike for 42 years, and son Lorenz - it is the really first time in live in a side...)

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Re: Star

Post by CCM620 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:16 am

hi Beat,good work! Leuppi wheels?

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Post by beat » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:28 pm

hi jack
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the adjustable-anti-dive
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clamped point of fixation the brake bracket
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so, by shifting this clamp one or two inch higher or lower on the fork tube, there is a significant difference about diving effect.
that is it.

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IQ of 51 to 70
I am not sure, I do have any!
because this all bike is made with nearly no mats and no paperwork ( plans ) at all.
I was just fallowing my " feelings ", - wondering what is coming out of the ideas ( pictures in my head ) I had and not to lazy to go a other way if it would be no good....... :lol:

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Leuppi wheels?
yes 620, Läuppi wheels.
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fron 1975 around....
and also Läuppi Elast
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out of the same decade...

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Post by Jack Gifford » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:55 am

Thanks for the picture. Clever way to obtain anti-dive adjustment!
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Re: Star

Post by Jack Gifford » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:54 am

:ban :ban :ban
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Re: Star

Post by beat » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:47 pm

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our way of transporting the old star
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on a training track near by
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first time a little bit dirty ...
this time, no picture taking whilst reading it, sorry.
but over all : it is going well so far and no signs of cracks in the tubes ore other brocken things !

I do still ask you guys: - What is the wight of this bike in Kg's :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

( as a first price of the one got it nearest, I offer two laps in the sidecar at the training track :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: )

any thoughts :idea: :idea:

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