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Well... so the fun begins, I took the chance to buy Nambo's trail blazer.

What a starting point I'm amazed it didn't get snapped up instantly:

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Malcolms Lad wrote: trail blazer.
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Possibly sourced an engine, going a for a gander with my ol' man later today could be fun.....
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<135 to the forum Jo Holliday, bit of a random first post but hay ho. Would you update your profile and let everyone know roughly where you are please?
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Hi Gerry,

Not quite sure why but it appears I have a duplicate account, one with this username and one with my full name. Could you possibly remove the other one?

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No worries :grin:
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And so she will be........ 441cc

She turns over and has compression, I am in need of sourcing the full kickstart mech and clutch workings, I have got hold of a standard timing cover but will be on the scout for the Clews spec long crank primary and outer timing cover in good time. Can't believe how quick this has happened, one week in...

Also the engine was sourced from a local guy to me, and he has stack loads of OIF stuff and earlier that he is bringing in from the states, If there is any obscure things people are looking for I can pass on his details.

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Another for the good of my health....

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Wow Mr Lad you have sum work to do <201 but the end result will be well worth it :ban
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Ain't that the truth... tbf though at least most of it is there to begin with. Keeps me out of trouble for the most part too. roll on the autojumbles.
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I have taken the engine to its many pieces, on the whole things aren't so bad, its currently on a factory plus 010, small end has had it, big end is fine, oil pump gear and cam are great as is the valvetrain. Problem comes when we come to look at the gearbox. Some what water logged i think would be an understatement.

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Did you find "John from Norways" under water storage source ? :lol:
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Interesting, mine is completly beyond retrieve, on the hunt now for a complete gearbox set. Shame but at least the rest seems workable.

Hopefully start sourcing what i need over the coming weeks, I need to get on with building the workshop first though to have the space to build this thinig properly. Its good motivation seeing her sitting in the garage though...
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Got 50% of my transmission parts sorted, looks like its new piston and bore time to +020, its just out of spec on piston clearance. So think it would be rude not to treat it to the Carillo and piston with steel cage big end from EdV or Mark.

I just need to source a selector cam plate, detent spring plate, and 3 gears for the main shaft. Got a complete layshaft set NOS and a spare Lay shaft to go with it, fourth output gear plus all the kickstart assy and a spare gear selector for 40 notes which i was quite chuffed with.

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IF by any chance you opt for a different exhaust system I would be interested in that one <12fs
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Hello son of malc, did that motor come from carlton?
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No.... afraid not.

In other news the crank cases are now split and I have almost everything ready for deep clean then re-assembly when my new shop is up.

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Guys looking for your help here, I need to source one of these primary covers, its the ccm double dish case circa '74 -'79. I've looked at the PES items but the foot rest mount isn't right.

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Good day gents,

The big dig has begun for my new home workshop and lovely home for my project. Great motivation having it sitting there.

Engine is almost completely stripped now just have old bearings and bushes to remove and the total clean down and restoration can begin. Can't wait, I have plenty of photos to upload this evening.

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engine cases and frame on ebay now. IF you arena lottery winner.
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Workshop Project

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The clutch cover your looking for is before it was standardised for CCM use. I expect it is not even CCM as like most manufacturers inspiration often comes from someone else's product. The one's PES makes for CCM Britain are absolutely correct.
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I see Mark. I wasn't suggesting yours were incorrect relative to the general CCM cases I have seen, I meant in terms of what I was looking for apologies if this was mis represented. The cases fitted to that 550 were definitely supplied direct from Bolton, any clues as to who may have been supplying CCM those before CCM made their own? And the likelyhood of finding them?

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Ask about and watch ebay if you have too much money. Bolton had a habit of using what ever they could lay their hands on to get a bike out the door, and who can blame them? It can be a pain when supplying replacement parts. The worst one is being asked to supply something that was known to be no good at the time and was subsequently scrapped and redesigned. Parts evolve in racing, that's why you can't have an original race bike.
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Thanks Mark, If I have no joy I will take the plunge on the case version you supply... here's to hoping! Sent you a PM also regarding bearings seals and the like hoping you can help me out.

Finally extracted the crank from the RH case last night. Things look promising for the rebuild at least.

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Email Anita about parts Joe.

Gerry, how about a section for shed building. I'm getting excited about this one. Serious ground works.

Edit by MM: So you are digging up Beaver Street :shock: Why not post in Off Topic? No sure if Shed Envy warrants a new section, but who knows?
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Thanks mate. Can't wait to get it built. Drew out the building line Saturday prior to the first dig and my better half came out with a cuppa took a gander at it, I was think here we go moan about how much garden its taking and she said.... "Are you sure you'll have enough room in there once your benches are in????" After I got off the the floor proceeded to expand the depth by a further 2ft. What a woman ay?

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Crank looking amazing..... pfffftttt:

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Has she got a sister.
Only joking. I asked my better half if I should sell two bikes to help fund something and she replied "why would you want do something stupid like that". you beauty time to look for another bike project.
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nopdog wrote:Has she got a sister.
Only joking. I asked my better half if I should sell two bikes to help fund something and she replied "why would you want do something stupid like that". you beauty time to look for another bike project.
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Agreed,

In other news, the footings went in this weekend and the first stage of blocking up begins on Friday..... I managed to extract the inner layshaft bearing an now need to look at extracting the broken detent spring bolt that was lerking in there.

With extra building materials arriving though I am fast running out of space arghhhhhhh... Spose I better get building.

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Malcolms Lad wrote:Crank looking amazing..... pfffftttt:

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I've seen as bad. Disassembled, turned down in a lathe, new crankpin, rod, and bearings; it's now run 151 mph @ 7,000 RPM in my Bonneville bike.
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Thats a thing of true beauty,

there is workshop progress but no photos, I do now have all my g/box bearings, tab washers and I put a cheeky order in with Mr. Cook today. My next move is to complete my shopping list for the Stafford show coming up....

The pressure is now on for the build as I am now planned to go to my wedding next year on it with my dad on his B40 engined Tr25SS, the hope is to get it built and to Red Marley (obviously not up the hill) which will give me time for shake down before the wedding in August.

And I have to finish the workshop first.... ahhhh
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Very happy person on this forum right now, I finally have everything except my shims and camplate which are coming from Mr. Cook. Also got my mains bearings too...

Even got a NOS main shaft to complete my build wooooo..

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do you have any money left? What did you get the wife?
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Just as a matter of interest, for the 78 it would have had a splined mainshaft and a sleeve gear with needle roller bearings.

Thanks for the custom, we try to help. :grin:
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Cheers Mark, Its more a visual representation as opposed to true 78 ccm hence the 441. Out of interest with your CCM outer cases is there a difference in terms of kickstart mech compared with 441?

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No, they fit B44's too
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