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Post by Malcolms Lad » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:13 am

Well... so the fun begins, I took the chance to buy Nambo's trail blazer.

What a starting point I'm amazed it didn't get snapped up instantly:

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Post by beat » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:17 pm

Malcolms Lad wrote: trail blazer.
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Post by skippy » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:32 am

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Joe Holliday » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:01 pm

Possibly sourced an engine, going a for a gander with my ol' man later today could be fun.....

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Post by minetymenace » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:03 pm

<135 to the forum Jo Holliday, bit of a random first post but hay ho. Would you update your profile and let everyone know roughly where you are please?
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:32 am

Hi Gerry,

Not quite sure why but it appears I have a duplicate account, one with this username and one with my full name. Could you possibly remove the other one?

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No worries :grin:
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:19 am

And so she will be........ 441cc

She turns over and has compression, I am in need of sourcing the full kickstart mech and clutch workings, I have got hold of a standard timing cover but will be on the scout for the Clews spec long crank primary and outer timing cover in good time. Can't believe how quick this has happened, one week in...

Also the engine was sourced from a local guy to me, and he has stack loads of OIF stuff and earlier that he is bringing in from the states, If there is any obscure things people are looking for I can pass on his details.

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Post by Malcolms Lad » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:40 am

Another for the good of my health....

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Post by Barry Creary » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:12 am

Wow Mr Lad you have sum work to do <201 but the end result will be well worth it :ban

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:18 am

Ain't that the truth... tbf though at least most of it is there to begin with. Keeps me out of trouble for the most part too. roll on the autojumbles.
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:27 pm

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I have taken the engine to its many pieces, on the whole things aren't so bad, its currently on a factory plus 010, small end has had it, big end is fine, oil pump gear and cam are great as is the valvetrain. Problem comes when we come to look at the gearbox. Some what water logged i think would be an understatement.

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Post by HPbyStan » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:47 pm

Did you find "John from Norways" under water storage source ? :lol:
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Post by Malcolms Lad » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:56 pm

Interesting, mine is completly beyond retrieve, on the hunt now for a complete gearbox set. Shame but at least the rest seems workable.

Hopefully start sourcing what i need over the coming weeks, I need to get on with building the workshop first though to have the space to build this thinig properly. Its good motivation seeing her sitting in the garage though...
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:54 am

Got 50% of my transmission parts sorted, looks like its new piston and bore time to +020, its just out of spec on piston clearance. So think it would be rude not to treat it to the Carillo and piston with steel cage big end from EdV or Mark.

I just need to source a selector cam plate, detent spring plate, and 3 gears for the main shaft. Got a complete layshaft set NOS and a spare Lay shaft to go with it, fourth output gear plus all the kickstart assy and a spare gear selector for 40 notes which i was quite chuffed with.

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by johnq » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:57 pm

IF by any chance you opt for a different exhaust system I would be interested in that one <12fs
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by vetterlatethanever » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:11 pm

Hello son of malc, did that motor come from carlton?

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:59 am

No.... afraid not.

In other news the crank cases are now split and I have almost everything ready for deep clean then re-assembly when my new shop is up.

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:31 am

Guys looking for your help here, I need to source one of these primary covers, its the ccm double dish case circa '74 -'79. I've looked at the PES items but the foot rest mount isn't right.

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Post by Malcolms Lad » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:05 pm

Good day gents,

The big dig has begun for my new home workshop and lovely home for my project. Great motivation having it sitting there.

Engine is almost completely stripped now just have old bearings and bushes to remove and the total clean down and restoration can begin. Can't wait, I have plenty of photos to upload this evening.

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by johnq » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:08 pm

engine cases and frame on ebay now. IF you arena lottery winner.
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:13 am

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Mark Cook » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:15 am

The clutch cover your looking for is before it was standardised for CCM use. I expect it is not even CCM as like most manufacturers inspiration often comes from someone else's product. The one's PES makes for CCM Britain are absolutely correct.
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Post by Malcolms Lad » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:02 pm

I see Mark. I wasn't suggesting yours were incorrect relative to the general CCM cases I have seen, I meant in terms of what I was looking for apologies if this was mis represented. The cases fitted to that 550 were definitely supplied direct from Bolton, any clues as to who may have been supplying CCM those before CCM made their own? And the likelyhood of finding them?

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Post by Mark Cook » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:03 pm

Ask about and watch ebay if you have too much money. Bolton had a habit of using what ever they could lay their hands on to get a bike out the door, and who can blame them? It can be a pain when supplying replacement parts. The worst one is being asked to supply something that was known to be no good at the time and was subsequently scrapped and redesigned. Parts evolve in racing, that's why you can't have an original race bike.
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Post by Malcolms Lad » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:10 am

Thanks Mark, If I have no joy I will take the plunge on the case version you supply... here's to hoping! Sent you a PM also regarding bearings seals and the like hoping you can help me out.

Finally extracted the crank from the RH case last night. Things look promising for the rebuild at least.

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Mark Cook » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:55 am

Email Anita about parts Joe.

Gerry, how about a section for shed building. I'm getting excited about this one. Serious ground works.

Edit by MM: So you are digging up Beaver Street :shock: Why not post in Off Topic? No sure if Shed Envy warrants a new section, but who knows?
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Post by Malcolms Lad » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:59 am

Thanks mate. Can't wait to get it built. Drew out the building line Saturday prior to the first dig and my better half came out with a cuppa took a gander at it, I was think here we go moan about how much garden its taking and she said.... "Are you sure you'll have enough room in there once your benches are in????" After I got off the the floor proceeded to expand the depth by a further 2ft. What a woman ay?

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Post by Malcolms Lad » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:02 am

Crank looking amazing..... pfffftttt:

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Post by nopdog » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:44 am

Has she got a sister.
Only joking. I asked my better half if I should sell two bikes to help fund something and she replied "why would you want do something stupid like that". you beauty time to look for another bike project.
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Post by skippy » Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:49 pm

nopdog wrote:Has she got a sister.
Only joking. I asked my better half if I should sell two bikes to help fund something and she replied "why would you want do something stupid like that". you beauty time to look for another bike project.
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:52 am

Agreed,

In other news, the footings went in this weekend and the first stage of blocking up begins on Friday..... I managed to extract the inner layshaft bearing an now need to look at extracting the broken detent spring bolt that was lerking in there.

With extra building materials arriving though I am fast running out of space arghhhhhhh... Spose I better get building.

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Post by koncretekid » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:35 am

Malcolms Lad wrote:Crank looking amazing..... pfffftttt:

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:53 am

Thats a thing of true beauty,

there is workshop progress but no photos, I do now have all my g/box bearings, tab washers and I put a cheeky order in with Mr. Cook today. My next move is to complete my shopping list for the Stafford show coming up....

The pressure is now on for the build as I am now planned to go to my wedding next year on it with my dad on his B40 engined Tr25SS, the hope is to get it built and to Red Marley (obviously not up the hill) which will give me time for shake down before the wedding in August.

And I have to finish the workshop first.... ahhhh
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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:41 pm

Very happy person on this forum right now, I finally have everything except my shims and camplate which are coming from Mr. Cook. Also got my mains bearings too...

Even got a NOS main shaft to complete my build wooooo..

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Post by minetymenace » Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:11 pm

do you have any money left? What did you get the wife?
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Post by skippy » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:19 pm

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Mark Cook » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:21 am

Just as a matter of interest, for the 78 it would have had a splined mainshaft and a sleeve gear with needle roller bearings.

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Re: 1978 CCM Replica Build

Post by Malcolms Lad » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:40 am

Cheers Mark, Its more a visual representation as opposed to true 78 ccm hence the 441. Out of interest with your CCM outer cases is there a difference in terms of kickstart mech compared with 441?

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Post by Mark Cook » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:30 pm

No, they fit B44's too
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