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Post by minetymenace » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:38 pm

You can't weigh a BSA in kilogrammes! Joseph Whitworth will be turning in his grave! You'll be advocating using metric threads next.

I guess: 28 stone, 11 pounds and 7 ounces <069
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Post by Canberra » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:46 am

Runs sweet - My guess - 220kgs with fuel?

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Post by Jack Gifford » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:17 am

337 lb. dry (153.2 kg)
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Re: Star

Post by Barry Creary » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:22 am

210 kilogram &lt;069

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Re: Star

Post by beat » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:09 pm

minetymenace wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:38 pm
I guess: 28 stone, 11 pounds and 7 ounces
as :
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You can't weigh a BSA in kilogrammes!
==== 182.995 <913 <913 <913

well, -- let Joseph rotate.... :ban


so until now we have:

Steves 205 Kg
Minety 182.995 Kg
Canberra 220 Kg with fuel
Jack 153.2 Kg dry
Barry 210 Kg


wait a day and see if there are any others...

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Re: Star

Post by CCM620 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:53 pm

hi Beat,respect! where have you a Training track?

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Post by beat » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:22 pm

hi ccm620
I will tell you this ;-) when you give your voting about the weight first!

............Kg


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BTW, I could put a original classic MX sidecar on a weight bridge, a EML Y*maha 650 ccm twin ( bored to 980 cc)
It was showing 230 Kg.

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Re: Star

Post by CCM620 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:44 am

ca.200kg with fuel and oil!

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Re: Star

Post by beat » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:46 pm

hi 620,

I guess you know this track better than I do : Colas Grube in Niederbipp.

35 Km is near in this case <212

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Re: Star

Post by beat » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:57 pm

about the weight if this sidecar bike:

with oil but no fuel : 179.5 Kg
with 9 Liter of fuel : 187 Kg.
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old, but NOT fat


BTW, dos someone know a source for a new gasket for this Monza Fuel cap ??
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it is leacking
the gasket is looking still o k, but it isn't .

:( :(

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Post by Canberra » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:16 am

Impressive :shock:

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Post by Jack Gifford » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:48 am

Minety must have cheated... :cry:
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Post by minetymenace » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:50 am

Cheated! Jo Whitworth appeared in a dream and reminded me that those wheels were quite light!

All I have to do now is get myself over to the land of holey cheese for a test ride!

Now, I have just bought a house that a Spitfire crashed into in 1943, maybe there's a Merlin engine in the attic (there will be a Hurricane in the garage :cool: )
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Post by koncretekid » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:30 pm

I was getting ready to guess 175 kg, when I realized I was too late.

Anyway, I was looking at your front brake stay (anti-dive control rod) and I think it may twist it's mounting bracket on the fork leg. I had a brake stay lug on a S*zuki 4ls fork tube break off during braking into a corner, so there is quite a lot of pull when the brake is applied. Also, aren't the leading link forks naturally anti-dive? I actually built one for a bicycle that works that way (sorry no picture.)

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Post by Jack Gifford » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:47 am

koncretekid wrote:
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... aren't the leading link forks naturally anti-dive?...
Only if the brake reaction torque is to the leading link.
Side note: old, imprecise, sticky telescopics were also somewhat anti-dive; too bad they didn't have any compliance...
I agree that [ideally] beat's torque link should be centered on the fork, so it doesn't try to rotate the clamp.
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Post by beat » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:45 pm

koncretekid wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:30 pm
there is quite a lot of pull when the brake is applied.
this is very true !
means, the clamp must be precisely and strong fit.

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Cheated! Jo Whitworth appeared in a dream and reminded me that those wheels were quite light!

All I have to do now is get myself over to the land of holey cheese for a test ride!

Now, I have just bought a house that a Spitfire crashed into in 1943, maybe there's a Merlin engine in the attic (there will be a Hurricane in the garage )
well, joe withworth seams to help some times, but anyway, -- the offer stays for minety :ok

about your new house : di'd they pull out the Spitfire from it ore is it still stuck in there from the rear side ??
have you checked this :?: :?:

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Post by minetymenace » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:39 pm

The Spitfire took the roof off and landed the other side of the road (see here) Once I have moved in and built a garage, I think a European trip is in order...
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Post by Jack Gifford » Wed May 01, 2019 5:58 am

Thanks for posting tbe link to the Hazel Raines story- quite interesting.
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Post by beat » Wed May 01, 2019 8:22 pm

Jack Gifford wrote:
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Thanks for posting tbe link to the Hazel Raines story
very interesting....

you know it minety :

you are wellcome here !

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Post by beat » Thu May 09, 2019 8:02 pm

ask me what job is on now.........
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a lot of measuring, paperwork and mats.....
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if it isn't everything noted correctly, I get helplessly lost in this game

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BTW, it got a little bit dirty a first time by this weekend...
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Post by skippy » Thu May 09, 2019 11:43 pm

Fuel air mixture. <201 So how did it go? <216 <216 At least we know you didn't kill yourself or wreck it. :thumb
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Post by koncretekid » Fri May 10, 2019 2:38 pm

beat wrote:
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ask me what job is on now........

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I'm enclosing my dyno to keep the neighbors happy (read: "keep the wife happy"), so I'll be putting the TR250 on, maybe next week, to see what I get with the new carb.

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Post by beat » Fri May 10, 2019 9:28 pm

skippy wrote:
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Fuel air mixture.
skippy wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 11:43 pm
So how did it go?
yes, A/F R

Mikuni 36 TM Flatslide, buyed from EdV, prejeting done ( 12 $ US ).
Values:
Start : 100
Pilot : 25
Pilot Air Screw : 1.5 turns
Needle Jet : P8
Jet Needle : 6FJ40
Jet Needle Pos. : 3 from top
Main : 280
Trottle Valve : 4.0

started very well ( second kick ), runns well by 1/4 trottle, rich by 1/2 far to rich by 3/4 and nearly dies by full trottle.

my opinion is the needle 6FJ40. it is to slim by the lower end.

so I came back to the Amal needle with two Grooves, the 67 mm long one.

to make it short : I messed up the first one, means, I moved the tapper point to 22 mm, - to much !
Needle lost, because it runs too rich in 1/4 to 1/2 now by a Needle Jet of O8 :cry:

taking the next needle, - this are the values at the moment:

a : 67.5
b : 28
D 1.0 : 2.50
D 2.0 : 2.50
D 2.5 : 2.50
D 3.0 : 2.48
D 3.5 : 2.44
D 4.0 : 2.40
D 4.5 : 2.38
D 5.0 : 2.30
D 5.5 : 2.20
D 6.0 : 2.04
D 6.5 : 1.90

Clip Grooves : I make more of them , to the top end side. in total 7 now.
clip in 3. from top now, Needle Jet P6 now.

I am not saying it is good , but it runs the all trottle range right through.

I am sure, it will take some more hours to get it in the range of A/F 12:1 and 13:1, but I need the right weather for it.

the problem is, by bright sunshine the display of the A/F reader is no good to see, and by rainfall it is dangerous to playing with the brakes at full power runn.

well, - it needs more time and passion of the neighbours... :oops:

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Post by minetymenace » Sat May 11, 2019 12:44 am

Go at night Beat, the neighbours will be asleep (to start with!)
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Post by beat » Sun May 12, 2019 9:08 pm

hi Tom
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I'm enclosing my dyno
any pics from this dyno :?: <201

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Post by beat » Fri May 31, 2019 9:06 pm

it is doing it....
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not fast but it was running two races over the all time...
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Post by minetymenace » Fri May 31, 2019 11:04 pm

Hey Beat, beware the fashion police, your trousers have different coloured legs.....and you aren't wearing gloves!

Where was that? Somewhere local? What next?
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Post by beat » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:31 pm

hi minety,

you are right in all points ! :oops:

about the gloves : I vergot them in the Timetaker office, ( old brain.... ) find them one race later.... :oops: :cry: :oops:
the trousers will get the same shortly, - as the monkey says....

this race was at Emmingen, at the MX Academy.
eleven modern bikes ( WSP Zabel and KTM's ) and just our G - Oldie. No other classic bike there.
we finished on place 10 ! ( one was not at the race, one other missed with tech problem )

the nine others making 3 laps more than us in the same time.... ( 18 Minutes + one Lap ) :oops: :oops: :oops:

well, it was a good training anyway.

next race will be in Schopfheim, Germany, 23. of June, after this will be Feldkirch in Austria at the 30. of June.
all places near the Swiss border.

at the moment I do prolonging the front fork swing arm by 21 mm to make it more reacting for the steering.
modification on the steering damper position is in progress as well.
after this, the bike has to nep over a bit more to the sidecar side.
it hanges now two degrees to the left, - making it going easy around the left side corners, - but to unwill for the right side bends.

need to find the fine tuned balance for it....
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Post by beat » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:40 pm

fitted a other front wheel with 21 Inch in compare to the 18 inch as before ..
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wheel from a Husqvarna TE 610
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this should go a bit easier trough the deep holes and bumps on a MX track...

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Post by beat » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:13 pm

Hi all
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in Austria....
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to the right...
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to the left
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upwards....
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To the front and to the back?
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Post by beat » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:29 pm

well, - stressed members are going everywhere
:ban :ban

but I must say : it was a really " hot Race " in Feldkirch, : 36° C outside Temperature, und we where proud to go over the full distance of the race.
Plce Nr 14 of more than 20 Teams was the result.
good enough for us " newcomers " :grin:

but one thing I have to realise: in September, I guess I will not join the B50 Meeting on Circuit Carol near Paris.
by this date the race in Rudersberg will be held. :oops: :cry: :???:

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Post by Ian Hingley » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:48 pm

Maybe the B50 meeting should be held at Rudersberg?

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Post by beat » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:22 pm

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Maybe the B50 meeting should be held at Rudersberg?
I am not sure this is a good idea.
at Remi's place, they have a excellent cook on board and are perfect organised.

at beat's place, there is just a car, a trailer and a old motorcycle. that is all.
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not much organised....
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Post by skippy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:55 pm

You forgot the sense of humor at your place Beat :laugh
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the sense of humor at your place Beat
yes skippy, this is right :!:
this sense will be covered by some mud ore dust some time, but always in the atmosphere .... :lol:

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Post by beat » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:37 pm

I lost the sense of humour for a short time:
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found a puddle of oil underneath the Goldy....
my guess for the sump plate is leaking was wrong
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it comes from above...
so, - out with the engine after three races only...
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two hours work to get it out
a closer look shows it are both casses
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cracks around the engine mount, - ( lower rear )
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this cracks seames to bee very old
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and the gold DB34 case is very thin at this point
will try to close them by welding next week ....

Question about the Piston Rings:

as the liner dos not look so bad:
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it is used but no marks of seizing
the piston has to much coal sediments IMO
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coal on top
I ask me : are the two parts of the oilscrapper fitted correctly ??
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oilscrapper wrong way round ???
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something wrong with my oilscrapper ????
any help out there ??

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Post by Jack Gifford » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:37 am

What style oil ring is it? It doesn't look like any style that I'm familiar with.
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Post by beat » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:03 pm

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What style oil ring is it?
it is " " original " ", means : it is in since at least 1968, the time when we bought this engine.
as the piston is + 0.02 , it must be replaced once after the standard size.

tomorrow I will take better pics, hope it will explain something.

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Post by beat » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:15 pm

the oil scrapper question:
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this is the pair
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the upper ring shows its lower side
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the lower ring showing his upper side
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so I faced this sides together...
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from each ring the flat part faces to the piston
is this right ore knows someone something different :?: :?:

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